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Death of the PC games industry?
April 5th 2003, 14:27 CEST by Neale Read this. |
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#106 Duality Sometimes I can't help but feel like i'm some kind of Pim Fortuyn. So your wang grows out of the back of your head? Freak. Thats Bib Fortuna! This is Pim Fortuyn. The floggings will continue until morale improves. ~ anonymous
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This Pim fellow was pretty interesting. He was an un-closeted, gay far right conservative who apparently polarized a lot of people. The floggings will continue until morale improves. ~ anonymous
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can someone please explain why this renders properly in Mozilla, but not in IE6? I've two tables, one which completely fills the browser (width/height="100%") and is basically just a container so that I can center the other - 'main' - table in the browser. But no matter where I put the valign="middle" attribute (ie, in the <tr> or <td> tags of the main table), it refuses to display properly. I've tried it on a few other machines here in the office. Anyone any ideas? I'm guessing it's some shitty IE bug... if you could just see the beauty
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Xero: The "best" thing about the Pim Fortuyn story is that he was assassinated by a left-wing animal rights activist... if you could just see the beauty
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deadlock try this for the main table, values may need adjusting ya-da ya-da <table width="100%" height="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tr colspan="3" height=10%> <td width=10%></td> </tr> <tr height=80%> <td></td> <td width=80% align="center" valign="middle"> <table width="100%" height="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tr> <td class="main_table" valign="top">Main Text</td> </tr> </table> </td> <td width=10%></td> </tr> <tr colspan="3" height=10%> <td></td> </tr> </table> |
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None-1a: That was more or less exactly what I was going to do if I couldn't figure out how to do it the first way! Cheers! if you could just see the beauty
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Mank unless Iraq uses them it'll take a while. After all if they are hiding something it's not going to be in the most obvious and/or lest protected areas. but even so, no trace of the weapons has been found. and if the iraqis were planning on using the weapons, they probably would've brought em with them, don't you think? as time goes by, it does become more likely that Iraq doesn't have any WMD. and even when, after the war is over, the military find WMD hidden somewhere, then they still didn't use them, which is what this is all about (remember that it's not JUST about possession of WMD, because the USA has those as well. the whole conflict is about the likeliness of iraq to use WMD against the US or other countries. if the war passes without WMD usage of Iraq, the US morally loses. simple.) "You see, house is a feeling that no one can understand really unless you're deep into the vibe of house."
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that said, now that the military are there, it's just for the best that they finish the job. relative freedom for the iraqi people will be the only good thing coming out of this war. now that it's started, they'd better finish it. "You see, house is a feeling that no one can understand really unless you're deep into the vibe of house."
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joker: Sometimes I can't help but feel like i'm some kind of Pim Fortuyn. maar heb je er nog wel zin an? "You see, house is a feeling that no one can understand really unless you're deep into the vibe of house."
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Ah, here we go. And a second source, with slightly less information: Googlism: whisp is de expert in zwerkbal
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#124 lol The middle east is becoming one gigantic chaos. Also interesting to see how the US and the UN let Sharon pretty much do what he wants. |
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#132 I agree with what you wrote. |
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a dubious honour. "You see, house is a feeling that no one can understand really unless you're deep into the vibe of house."
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#135 Why isn't that on CNN or BBC or other major newssites? |
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To interrupt your regulary schedule arguments about warez and wars: I'm now the proud owner of... er, proud father of a "wrinkly, but cute" (as my 5 year old daughter puts it) baby boy, named Cole Benjamin Perkins. Very tired am I and type like yoda I do when tired I am. We now continue your regularly scheduled showing of Hedi. "It's all fair game once you click "post", mind you." - Bailey
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Congrats. Two in one week... I hope it's not catching! |
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#132 by Gunp01nt but even so, no trace of the weapons has been found. and if the iraqis were planning on using the weapons, they probably would've brought em with them, don't you think? Sure but to where and with who? It's most likely the Republican Guard are the one's sitting on any thing they have and they've primely been deep in the cities (also the easiest place to protect). I suspect well start getting reports of things being found or used over the next week or two as fighting dies down and they truly get control of areas in Baghdad (can't really look if there's still fighting going on). I don't think use is really required depending on what if any thing is found. Finding stuff destroyed that look like they could have been launch ready or at that point in a few hours would be good enough considering it's possible things where knocked out in the earlier bombings. |
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Looks like they may have found an actual storage facility for the weapons, but that story is developing. Of course, they don't have any WMDs and this is all a plant of the evil, Zionist America. [/sarcasm, fags] "And I'm saying without a relationship with God and those strong convictions HE put in me I wouldn't be a 42 year old who hasn't had sex with anyone today."
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I think your assessment of the moral calculus (as it will be played out in the mainstream international community) of the conflict is incorrect Gunpoint. If American/UK forces find any significant cashes or chemical or biological weapons, after Saddam and co. insisted they didn't have any, that's going to tip the scales significantly in Bush's favor. Whether they get used or not won't be much of a factor, very few people are going to argue "Well, okay, yeah, the Iraqis had the stuff, but they didn't use it, so they probably wouldn't have ever used them, maybe, we think, so the Americans were wrong." |
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Finding WMD will allow the US-UK alliance to wrongfoot all those who opposed the war. It will be interesting to see how they capitalize on the opportunity. |
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Congrats! |
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Here's an article about the hypocrisy of the US using special ops forces in Afghanistan dressed as civilians while complaining about Iraqi soldiers disguised as civilians should be tried as war criminals and treated as "unlawful combatants." |
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Congrats, Matt. |
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I haven't been keeping tabs all that well, who has killed more Coalition forces? The Americans, or the Iraqis? Of course, this is only a minor technicality, as even when "properly elected" into office, a politician has as much chance of not having gotten there via corrupt means as Dubya has of spelling racecar backwards. --UncleJeet |
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Congratulations Matt. (And Neale, who I missed before) |
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Whether they get used or not won't be much of a factor, very few people are going to argue "Well, okay, yeah, the Iraqis had the stuff, but they didn't use it, so they probably wouldn't have ever used them, maybe, we think, so the Americans were wrong." heck, for that matter, 56% of americans don't even care whether Saddam has WMD or not, but that doesn't make it right. I think american public opinion is hardly the only factor that matters here, it's more the credibility of the US and the relationships between the US and the rest of the world. I just think it's important to remember what this conflict was all about. and although 75% of the american people now support the war, those numbers tend to differ in other countries, where people are still critical and skeptical towards the US government. "You see, house is a feeling that no one can understand really unless you're deep into the vibe of house."
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#147 You mean the US are hypocrits? wow, who would have thought. |
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Congratulations Matt :) (and thanks, Hugin) You can't derail this train of idiocy, Shadarr. Not even with a big fat cow of logic on the tracks. - Bailey
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Gunpoint, please reread what I actually wrote. My post was about how the conflict will be spoken of by the international community, not the American people, how the justification for going in will play in the press and in the UN, not whether or not it was "right". |
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yay! Babies for all! I'm going to go out and make my own right now! |
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Screenshots of Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Tides of War and Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Operation Resurrection, on the Xbox and PS2, respectively. |
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What the papers say This has been a week of serial apologizing in France. (It seemed the closer coalition troops got to Baghdad, the more earnest were the apologies.) It began on Monday with Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin saying, "Just because we're against this war doesn't mean we want dictatorship to defeat democracy. We are in the democratic camp. The Americans are not enemies." On Tuesday, Raffarin told his nation's parliament, "It is indispensable to be vigilant against all displays of anti-Americanism, which would be unacceptable." On Wednesday, his spokesman added, "We have no leniency toward the Iraqi regime. Of course, we want to see Saddam Hussein's regime ended." Even German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder joined the "old Europe" chorus of those singing a slightly different tune this week. In a speech to the German parliament, he called for "the defeat of the dictatorship" in Iraq, but never mentioned who might actually be doing the "defeating." Well, Saddam will be defeated and that is what the French and German governments fear most: a free Iraq, grateful to its liberators and its new allies and with no particular need to curry favour with those who made a nice, fat living doing business with Saddam. This is no longer about freedom fries and boycotts of fine Bordeaux. This is about trade and reconstruction contracts and the future of Saddam's favorite oil company, TotalFinaElf. |
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Looks like they just found Iraqi missiles of mass destruction, loaded with chemical weapons. Heard the report as I was reading this thread. They found the missiles in a captured palace, if I heard right. "One of the most difficult tasks people can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games..." -- C.G. Jung
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Balderama: I don't see how any of that equates to 'Old Europe' singing a different tune; Chirac, Villepin and Schroeder were saying more or less the same thing prior to the war. Chirac even made a hilarious comment to the effect he loved America, particularly its junk food, which was, in my opinion, a deliciously (boom-boom) snide bit of French cultural/culinary snobbery. if you could just see the beauty
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Possible WMDs found. |
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Blair seems to be really fucked now. The contemptuous brushing aside of the UN and the shameless negation of its role as a forum for resolving international disputes has set a dangerous precedent. The world will not easily forget the manner in which the US and Britain sidelined the UN, nor will it forgive the disastrous repercussions." |
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#158 Scott Miller commenting on the war. We can now be sure this war will end, when it's done. |
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hugin: Gunpoint, please reread what I actually wrote. My post was about how the conflict will be spoken of by the international community, not the American people, how the justification for going in will play in the press and in the UN, not whether or not it was "right". please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I get the feeling you're trying to say that it doesn't matter who's wrong or right, but who gets the most public support. My point of view is that facts matter more than public opinion (not just that of the american public but worldwide), especially if the public opinion is ignorantly wrong. "You see, house is a feeling that no one can understand really unless you're deep into the vibe of house."
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Maybe the sarin belongs to some wierd Japanese cult, placed in Baghdad for safe storage? |
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U.S.: Cannot Confirm Death of 'Chemical Ali' AS SAYLIYA CAMP, Qatar, April 7 - The U.S. military said on Monday it could not confirm that "Chemical Ali," the commander of Iraq's southern front, had been killed in an air strike on his house. Asked about the comamnder's fate, Brigadier General Vincent Brooks told a news conference at Central Command in Qatar: "We have no confirmed report on the condition of the man referred to as Chemical Ali." A military spokesman said earlier on Monday that the British military believed they had found the body of Chemical Ali, whose real name is Ali Hassan al-Majid, following an air strike on his house in the city of Basra on Saturday. Majid is a cousin of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. He was nicknamed Chemical Ali after he ordered the use of poison gas on Kurdish villages in rebellious northern areas in 1988. |
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Is baldy french or something? So very bitter. |
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#159 They are also hypocrits. Saying you're against the war, but failing to do something against it? Now you tell me, what is the fucking use of saying you are against the war, but just standing and watching and not doing anything to stop it, and even say the country starting it is your friend. Schroeder and Chirac and Putin are cunts. What the hell do they think we are, sko idiot? Who are they trying to fool? If you ask me, they can just support the war instead. They had some courage to stand against the US in the UN, but I really don't see the long term value of it. |
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Hipp0Critz, yo. Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules.
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yes, hippocrits. family of the hippopotamus. "You see, house is a feeling that no one can understand really unless you're deep into the vibe of house."
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#166 CheesyPoof Is baldy french or something? So very bitter. It's because he can't figure out how to set up an email account. |
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It's because he can't figure out how to set up an email account. No, he just gave up on it. |
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I'm not saying ti doesn't matter. I'm saying that finding WMDs in any significant amount will cause a large shift in mainstream international perceptions of the war. Arguing that the "Iraqis not using them on US troops shows that they were harmless" won't get much play. |
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#170 I don't need an email account. Free websites that require registration, and specially with an email address, suck. It's pointless. It's not fair that I can't vote for Joker's topic. At least the IRA knows how to welcome an american president. All world leaders are hypocrites. There's no exception. |
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#159 Yes. They should start a war with America. Idiot. Seriously, if that's possible with you, being 'friends' with someone or some nation doesn't mean you have to agree wholeheartedly with everything they do. Nor does disagreement necessarily mean that you are no longer friendly with that person/nation. That's the kind of stupid logic that's being applied in some quarters in the US at the moment: if you're not with us, your against us. If you don't support the war, you're anti-American. If you don't support the war, you're non-patriotic. They're stupid sentiments, logical fallacies and potentially dangerous lines of thought. if you could just see the beauty
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I don't need an email account. Free websites that require registration, and specially with an email address, suck. It's pointless. It's not fair that I can't vote for Joker's topic. OK, we've got the "2 + 2" ... just waiting for the rest to come together ... |
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